Friday, August 08, 2008

The Octogon

Here's an interesting bit: Although not real clear, it seems the "ninja" in this video of an MMA cage bout ended up the winner.

And one reason it's not real clear is that what technique is visible does not appear to be classic taijutsu. Of course, HWSNBN has said all along that "real" fighting won't look like practice. (Although he also says MMA isn't "real" fighting because both people start and end fully expecting to go home at the conclusion of the pre-arranged match, and there is no possibility of one or both fighters pulling out weapons, and... oh, you get the point.)

Another reason is that no one who posted this really bothered to identify the fighters. So why do I make the educated guess the "ninja" is the winner? Because it seems to be posted by one of the To Shin Do Quest Centers, and why would they post a loss?

Something for you all to mull over. Draw your own conclusions.

11 comments:

Haywood Jablomy said...

Own conclusions are as follows: This is typical MMA sport fighting BS! And the move he used to win the match was the sport's signature " lay on the other guy wearing nothing but a speedo or board shorts and then smother and rub him until ge taps out" technique. This technique pales in comparison of course to the patented "tay kamae do"techniques that his teacher used on him.

jrf said...

Good. More than a little cynical, but a valid point.

Anyone else?

Anonymous said...

If you read the description of the video to the right of it on youtube, it tells all of the information you need to know including the name of the fighter. The web site address is even at the end of the video if you want to locate the school.

The difference between MMA and combat martial arts has to do with the style of attack. Someone trying to really hurt you attacks in a more committed way than an MMA fighter mostly because the MMA fighter knows his opponent can fight back. That isn't usually the case in real life. It is usually a "bully" of some sort picking on someone weaker (at least they think weaker).

By the way Haywood, I don't know what techniques you are referring, but maybe you can check out the website and go to that school and test yourself. The fight ended with a guillotine choke not smother and rub him. If you watch the movement, he is strategically attempting to move to a better position and avoid being hit.

Haywood Jablomy said...

And what do you know of combat? When was the last time you faced death or serious injury? Fear of not coming home? Or is what you know of combat merely rumor and conjecture?

He is strategically trying to win a sports match princess.Stop fooling yourself. Sport fighting does not a warrior make, nor do martial arts lessons with no practical application on the part of the student.

If you want to bake a cake... you have to crack a few skulls. Would you trust a brain surgeon who just practiced on rubber dummy brains a few nights a week with his buddies? Even if he wore cool brain surgeon garb when he practiced? Stop the cycle now. Leave the talk of combat to real warriors like Joe Rogan.

Anonymous said...

You guys are funny. Anyone can kick your ass on any given day and it has nothing to do with the proper alignment of the stars, Wheaties, if you are "combat ready" or whether you carry the lofty title of warrior. You sound like a couple of Saturday matinee, martial arts movie actors. "My monkey fist style is better that your tiger claw style." and your lips are still flappin'!!

Shinobi.wind said...

You all need to lighten up. If combat and danger interview it's victims, it sure wouldn't pick the readers of this blog. Regardless of the discipline of our study, the sense of confidence and awareness we leave with makes us less likely to be victims. The fact that we train, regardless of the art, moves more of our opponents to the list of people who a$$ we can kick from the list of those who can kick ours. Even with that knowledge, Sam Colt made all men equal fighters anyways.

Sky Ninja said...

This forum has really changed.

jrf said...

@ Anonymous(#1): Whoops! I completely forgot about the drop down description in the upper right corner of YouTube.

I just checked it out. I have to say, the "ground flow material" taught to black belts in the To Shin Do curriculum look very much like BJJ. Now, there's nothing wrong with that... Our group has crosstrained BJJ too, and found the system is extremely compatible with Bujinkan material.

You seem to be somewhat new here. Don't let Haywood put you off from visiting again. I strongly suspect he's a sock puppet. We get this kind of post from time to time, and generally give the posters the respect they (ahem) deserve.

@Sky Ninja: I hope you have only posted once here... And why don't you answer Fearless Leader's emails?

jrf said...

Oh, and I forgot...
@Anonymous #2: If there's already one "Anonymous" posting, please try to pick some other name as an identifier. It's hard to keep track otherwise.

"monkey fist..." Heh! That's comedy.

Sky Ninja said...

Yeah, I stop in from time to time to see what is going on. Work has me traveling alot and other things. I explained this to our fearless leader. Hope all is well.

anonymouser said...

I thought you would like the monkey fist, JRF. Actually it was "Sea Monkey fist". At least you stirred the pot a bit jrf. Recent past posts have not moved many to respond at all.